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Discussion Club of Dayton Records

 Collection
Identifier: MS-247

Scope and Content

The Discussion Club of Dayton Collection documents the history of an important part of Dayton civic culture in the 20th and 21st centuries. By studying this collection, researchers may gain insight into Dayton society and world events, based on the monthly meeting topics.

Series I: Administrative

The administrative papers of the collection focus primarily on the meeting bulletins, which were issued to every member and served as a reminder of the time, date, and place that the next meeting of the Discussion Club would be held. The bulletins also gave a short biography of the meeting's scheduled speaker and a synopsis of his or her discussion topic. This series also includes minutes, reports, meeting letters, a preference vote on discussion topics, meeting notes, and miscellaneous program files.

Series II: Membership

The membership part of the collection is comprised mainly of applications to join the Discussion Club. There is also a list of members by occupation, two constitutions, a small collection of 75th Anniversary celebratory documents and photographs, and a folder for Irving Bieser's personal papers.

Series III: Correspondence

A large portion of the correspondence series is made up of letters between Discussion Club members and potential speakers for the meetings. There were also letters between members, both business in nature and regarding potential members. There were several miscellaneous letters that did not fall into any of the aforementioned categories. There is also a folder with correspondence concerning the dissolution of the club in 2011.

Series IV: Financial

The financial series is the smallest of the collection. Four books are records books, dating from 1931-1949, 1949-1988, 1989-1997, and 1998-2005. A ledger book of dues covers the years 1973-1974 and 1988.

Dates

  • Creation: 1931-2011

Creator

Restrictions on Access

There are no restrictions on accessing materials in this collection.

Restrictions on Use

Copyright restrictions may apply. Unpublished manuscripts are protected by copyright. Permission to publish, quote or reproduce must be secured from the repository and the copyright holder.

History of Discussion Club of Dayton by Joey Thiele and Charles Lewis

Early records of the Discussion Club of Dayton are few as there are no official archives for the Club. Our Club was probably founded in early 1931. The earliest record consists of a financial log which shows that the Club spent $50.70 for 39 dinners at the Dayton Woman's Club, and that Edwin Todd received $10.00 per his expenses as speaker. Converting 1931 dollars into today's money that would be about $18.75 per meal and $110.50 for the speaker. Dues were five dollars a member.

The log further shows that the Club met in April, June, and August of 1931. By August the Club had 56 members. The Club had expenses for stenographic work, letter heads, and envelopes. The stenographic expense probably is evidence that the all male and mostly professional members did not include someone willing, or able, to type.

Paul Rice seems to have been the Club's first secretary- treasurer holding that position until February, 1936.

There are many notable Dayton names on the roster: A.B. Brower, L. Custer, R.K. Kemper, F.L. Shively, C.H. Shook, C.L Seasholes, R.K. McConnaughey, Irving Bieser, Siegfried Weng, and C. R. Murray.

The financial records become less detailed with that change in officers. They continued to meet at the Dayton Woman's Club with dues remaining at five dollars. In 1938 there were 57 members. and the dinner costs remained moderate as the Dayton Woman's Club was paid $52. 53 for 51 dinners (or $1.03 a meal) on Dec 2, 1941. Dues went up to $6.00 in January 1943, and then to $9.00 in January, 1944. Dinners had risen to $1.75 by April 1945. By 1949 dues had risen to ten dollars for a half year while one hundred stamps cost $3.00. A member paid $2.25 for a guest's dinner.

By 1952 the log ceases to carry the members names and a record of their dues paying. However, in 1979 the membership list and dues records return. Some familiar names are Dan Elliott, Charles and Ellie Lewis, Ralph Heyman, Wayne Staley, George Stillwagon, John Coleman, John Bell, Alan Klein, and Julian de Bruyn Kops. By 1980 the dues rose to $45 a half year.

In July 1981, after much discussion by the Board, and not on the first ballot, the Board recommended the admission of members' spouses. By a split vote the recommendation was approved, and dues were set at $45.00 for the male members and $30.00 for their spouses. Some of the women listed were Catherine Zahrt, Jean Coleman, Marjorie Fehr, and Joey Thiele. By 1985 other women who joined were Ellie Lewis, Ellie Heilbrunn, Betsy Jefferis and Cathy Brown. By November of 1985 the membership roster had increased to 86 with there being 20 women. It wasn't until 1988 that the dues were made the same for men and women! At an officers meeting held on December 8, 1982, it was decided to list the women separately from their husbands and to indicate their vocations.

The Club had an "Off the Record Policy" which meant that anything said during a meeting was considered confidential, and would never be leaked to the press. This was necessary as the membership included editorial staff from the Dayton Daily News.

Topics for the meetings were to be chosen as current issues with diverse viewpoints. The Club meetings have never lacked for heated and salty opinions (at least not until women got in) as some long time members recall the contributions of Bill Chait, Julian de Bruyn Kops and Carl Lohrey.

Carl Lohrey served as secretary -treasurer for decades and operated like an administrative director. The secretary- treasurer was allowed to serve as long as willing, while other officers had limited terms. Long standing members remember Carl Lohrey hand delivering the monthly newsletter to their business offices in downtown Dayton on foot! Carl had a way with words and would speak mischievously of Ivan the Horrible when announcing the upcoming program. When Carl's health declined, he entrusted his role of secretary -treasurer to Dr. Dan Elliott who continued for the next ten years in this guiding position until his death in 2004.

The ledger ceases to have Club records after 1988; however, there are well kept records of the speakers and their topics. Many of the topics being discussed today were also pertinent twenty- five years ago. Examples are the RTA, Success or Failure; Vice in Dayton; Downtown Dayton; Nuclear Energy; Women in Politics; Legal Ethics and Bizarreness and the Law; The 45 Million Dollar Arcade Project; the Wright State School of Medicine; Issues Facing the State of Ohio; and General Motors in Dayton. It may have been easier to answer some of these issues twenty -five years ago than at the present moment; just think of the Arcade and downtown Dayton.

What has happened in Dayton and throughout the United States is a change in demographics, women's rights and racial rights, and the cost of living. The Discussion Club of Dayton has changed along with the rest of society in these respects but not in its mission which is to provide an amiable social opportunity for the purposeful interchange of information and ideas for the intellectual stimulation of each member.

At the November 2010 meeting, the members of the club voted to dissolve the Discussion Club of Dayton. The remaining funds were donated to various IRS approved exempt organizations and a farewell dinner was held in February of 2011, officially signally the end of the Discussion Club after 78 years of existence.

Extent

1.0 linear feet

Language of Materials

English

Abstract

The Discussion Club of Dayton was founded in 1931 to provide a forum for civic leaders and professionals to meet and discuss the issues of the day. Records include correspondence, the club's monthly bulletin with information about program topics, and membership surveys. The club dissolved in 2011.

Statement of Arrangement

The collection is arranged into four series:

  1. Series I: Administrative
  2. Series II: Membership
  3. Series III: Correspondence
  4. Series IV: Financial

Acquisition Information

The Discussion Club of Dayton's Collection was given to the Wright State University Special Collections and Archives in 1993 with additions made in 2008, 2010, and 2012 totaling a number of 4 boxes. The donor then gave an additional box of papers, books, and photographs to the Archives in 2007.

Title
Guide to the Discussion Club of Dayton Records (MS-247)
Status
Completed
Author
Finding aid prepared by David Cornelisse, 1993
Date
2015
Description rules
Describing Archives: A Content Standard
Language of description
English
Script of description
Latin

Revision Statements

  • 2008: Additions processed by Lindsay Merritt
  • 2010: Additions processed by Patricia A. McEldowney
  • 2012: Additions processed by Patricia A. McEldowney

Repository Details

Part of the Special Collections Repository

Contact:
Wright State University Libraries
Special Collections and Archives
3640 Colonel Glenn Hwy
Dayton OH 45435-0001 USA
937-775-2092